nothing to report today... day of rest and research on how to deal with communication problems that are recuring.... me thinks I have to do the thinking and things will work out it's just to get the thoughts to register. : :big_grin: I think I have made some progress once he sees how much better my idea will work I think he'll be able to put it together with my help :big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin: that's tommorows woes..wish me luck aand thanks for the info scooterman...