Butch

By 'not handicapped' accessible, what exactly do you mean? Are there steps, a bathroom that is too small? Don and I go to places that aren't accessible to a wheelchair because of one to three steps, but we go anyway. I just make sure we get there early and leave early so we can find plenty of guys on their way in or out to help get Don up the steps. We've never lacked for volunteers. He limits his liquids on those days and while at the event so that the bathroom isn't a problem. An entire set of steps to a lower level doesn't work this way but in that case you might call ahead to see if they have a service elevator not generally open to the public. They can't refuse to let you use it---at least if they are smart. If all this fails to address the issue, maybe you and Lisa could invisit some of our co-workers over to your house for drinks before or after they go to the main event.

I kind of go along with Jean. It's surprising that they aren't handicapped accessible. I thought it's common now - then again I guess it's not actually the law and maybe some areas. especially here in Florida, see many handicapped people do to the older population. Are you sure there isn't a way? I'm sure it's a bit of a disappointment when you can't go to something because you are handicapped.

As for falling, I was taught almost right away how to get back on a low bed from the floor. Wasn't there any training. What I am trying to say is that people do fall but do not hurt themselbes. Perhaps we let down easily. There are also ways to "help the person up. I wanted to work in the yard; I love pulling weeds and so asked how to get up from that. It is doable; you just need a therapist show how and take a few minutes for your practice. Does Lisa still get therapy? These are a few advanced things that are good to know.

Well, a few short months and you will be able to get back on the golf course again. Life will slowly but surely start to come back for the 2 of you.

Houddee Butch, (that's texan) I say come on down to The little state of Texas. Especially central, here in the home land of many soldiers going and coming from Iraq. I see this being the case for as long as there are troops in Iraq.

We have so many handicapped persons here until it looks like the norm instead of the exception. Since there are troops living in every neighborhood, all the sidewalks, streets, public places and everywhere people go or visit, is redesigned to make access easy for us.

I guess they know we eat out and shop too. That's probably not true in some cities, but here they really care. We'll be glad to host you all in our city and the weather reminds you of spring time right now.

Everything is laid back, so, come on down and take a break from the snow.

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Service elevator is good idea, Ray and I use those, bathroom is something else but at least ring and see if there is a locker room or somewhere you could use instead, we once used a cleaner's room.

It s a pity when businesses don't comply with disabled access but try and see it as their problem not yours. Ring and say:"We are coming to a function there and this is what we require." Then is is their problem and they need to offer suggestions.

Sue.