Me thinks I found the page to write on ....very tiring day of building with some one who knows lots but has forgotten....ripped down two walls and attempted to do what I said in the first place, he finally realized I was right??? good thing I am so adept at gofering now I can be head gofer and advisor????think we'll take the day off tommorow and recupe hope it stays warm so we can carry on,,,,will fill you in on the next episode wall #3 on monday......