Rich:

Thank you so much for giving honest opinions about your chinese hospital & treatment, though with that kind of bad experience how come youdcided to go to another hospital in china do you think things will be different there?

Asha

dear!...so nice to hear from you!...i think you are correct in pointing out what you did...there are indeed some 'characteristics' in this culture that i'm sure i will bump into again...i'm so much more prepared and informed now...the only reason i'm in this hospital is that i knew it was time to leave tianjin which coincided with another patient i knew who had interviewed in my current hospital and came back with positive comments on what he saw and heard about the stroke rehab...i'm over here now...and the time to get the most fruitful returns are as soon after the stroke as possible...so here i be...tell me how you have been??...i'll blog...best from beijing, richxxx

Rich,

Not that I could even fathom heading to China for treatment due to financial and insurance restrictions, but thank you for your honesty in reporting what you have experienced during your stay. I sincerely hope things go better at the new facility for you.

HI Rich. I'm sorry your experience there is not what you expected. I know you will continue to challenge and do and seek the best you can.

Unfortunately there are Dr's and hospitals EVERYWHERE with unethical people. It is too bad that $$$$ get in the way of principles and ethics. And then of course there are some Dr's who get the "god" complex.

Sincerely hoping the new hospital is better and now you are wiser in your dealings and what therapy you need.

Wishing you the best as always, stay safe and know your friends are thinking of you.

Bonnie

(don't worry.. about duplicates, etc... Donna or one of us will catch them and it will get fixed.)

hi rich, i am sorry to hear you have not been happy with the results at that facility and its services. you are braver than most to even go out of our country for treatment. i also pray the next place is a better one and you achieve better results. please take care and keep us posted on your progress. i wish you the best.

hi kim...i think they did try their best, or pretty close to it, in tianjin given certain restraints they had...i don't blame them for the lack of results...my body didn't respond all that well...

but this doesn't mean i still don't have valid criticisms about the hospital which hold true...this current hospital is the last leg leg of my journey...after this, i'm done...i'm looking forward to coming home and realizing my plan to move to the jersey shore very close to the ocean!...

great to read your post...

Rich,

I am sorry that what you went to achieve didn't really happen. At least you tried. That's all any of us can do. I also appreciate your honesty. Were always looking for promising rehablitation for Rachel. I wish you continued success in your strive for some improvement. We all hope for the same.

I read the book writen by the lady from Iowa. I also met her when she spoke at a hospital. She had amazing results and takes patients there every three months. Were you with someone from Iowa? Not sure where they went but I could not believe the results she had.

yes trudy...ruth lycke did indeed have one in a billion recovery results, over 2 years post stroke no less...that's all true...i checked out her claims with some of the doctors in tianjin...no other word than extraordinary applies!...i've never disputed her results...my issue with her entire business is that no one knows better than her that her recovery was literally one in a billion...no one has had anything even close to the results she experienced...she's hawking her results dishonestly by saying that if she recovered, anyone can...this of course catches the attention of any survivor who hears it...too bad for all of us that there's not a shred of truth to it!

Rich, simply put, you know everyone's stroke is different- the area can be the same but a cm. different and that can make all the difference in the world. Was her stroke in the same area as yours? Was it as extensive? and so many other questions.

OK, I'm crazy but I have come to the conclusion that fate plays a role. If not, can you answer why some people don't make it? Can you understand how some perfectly healthy individual has an accident and the brain injury is what is known as a stroke? Can you explain any of like's happenings? Why do some people develope cancer? They don't really know yet.

I heard a lecture that really made me open my mouth because it was basically what happened to me. There was a group of cancer patients who were told that they only had so long to live. Those that said, ok and accepted became survivors. Of course, if you don't put your faith ain ANY higher being, this will not make sense, but on the other hand, what does fighting it in the wrong way do. Who knows if you wouldn't have had the same results with standard therapy.

There is a new form and it is said that it works. It is expensive but they are getting results. I don't know if that means 100% of those who are doing it or if only 10%. It is the chance one has to take as you did. Basically if you say that what will happen will happen and give it a chance, what are the chances that a person will be in the 10% or the 90%?

Isn't that life in general; we do what we can and take our chances?

Anyway, wherever you are, you know what we say- never give up.